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New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton told USA Today on Monday that in spite of his efforts to ‘remove his anti-gun bias’ when analyzing former player Will Smith’s shooting death late Saturday night, he still reached the same conclusion:

“I’ve heard people argue that everybody needs a gun,” he said. “That’s madness. I know there are many kids who grow up in a hunting environment. I get that. But there are places, like England, where even the cops don’t have guns.”

In the 33-minute phone interview, Payton made it crystal clear where he stands on the issue of guns and gun control in America. “I’m not an extreme liberal,” Payton said. “I find myself leaning to the right on some issues. But on this issue, I can’t wrap my brain around it.”

What he can wrap his brain around are some pretty hypocritical and inflammatory statements. When he discussed the gun Cardell Hayes, a convicted felon unable to legally own or purchase a weapon, had and used to kill Smith, Payton said, “It was a large caliber gun. A .45. It was designed back during World War I. And this thing just stops people. It will kill someone within four or five seconds after they are struck. You bleed out. After the first shot (that struck Smith’s torso), he took three more in his back.”

But Payton went on, saying, “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”

At least one statement Sean Payton made in the interview was blatantly truthful: “I hate guns.”